Mountaineering (Hill Walking)

Do you enjoy the hills, the views and spending time with like minded people? Do you want to become authorised to take parties out yourself – we can help!

We can offer you great hill walking skills and training weekends!

County Adviser/Assessor: David Adamson

Assessors:
David Adamson, Dai Cowx, Paul Davies, Paul Frame, Jonathan How, Brian May, Howard Park, Eileen Wingrove

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Mountaineering Permits

The Adventurous Activity Permit Scheme applies to Hill Walking and Mountain Biking.

Persons leading parties in Terrains One or Two (see definitions below) will require a formal permit. Terrain Zero does not require any formal permit though general expedition/activity requirements apply.

The relevant NGB Qualification depends on the terrain you wish to walk in. For Terrain 1, this is “Walking Group Leader (WGL)” and for Terrain 2, this is “Mountain Leader (ML)”. Check with ACC (Activities) for possibilities of grant aid for all Leader Training Courses.

The following rough guide indicates that demanding hiking can be undertaken to suit all needs. Full definitions are given in POR (see rules 9.26 to 9.32).

  • Terrain Zero – Any area under 500 metres and within 30 minutes walk of a road or habitation. This applies to most of southern England.
  • Terrain One – Any area over 500 but under 800 metres high that can be accessed without any resort to scrambling and is within 3 hrs of a road or habitation. This terrain occurs on Dartmoor, Peak district and parts of Snowdonia, the Lake District and Scotland.
  • Terrain Two – Any area over 800 metres and/or that an element of scrambling may be required. This terrain applies to areas around the summits of several peaks in Snowdonia, Lake District and Scotland.
  • Winter Conditions – Any occasion when snow and/or ice conditions are present or can reasonably be expected and cannot easily be avoided. This not based on time of year.
  • Summer Conditions – Any occasion when Winter Conditions are not present. This not based on time of year.
  • Walking Group Size – Minimum 4 and maximum 7. There has been a proposal to change this rule – for the most recent information consult www.scouts.org.uk or the County Mountain Activities Adviser.

Mountaineering Courses – Surrey/GLSW Scouts

Contact: David Adamson

Skills courses (Mountain Skills and Remote Camping Skills) are run each year, that are suitable for people requiring an introduction to the activity and those wishing to develop their skills and/or prepare for formal assessment. They involve a day pre-meet held locally and a weekend in the hills, usually in Snowdonia. Assessment can normally be provided by prior arrangement.

These courses can be tailored to meet the needs of most people and previous experience is not necessarily required, however, participants must be physically fit. The courses are ideal for Explorer or Network scouts or Leaders seeking Adventurous Activity Permits and will act as training and preparation for formal assessment. Assessment may be possible on these courses but must be previously arranged through the Hillwalking Permit registrar.

Some other opportunities are listed in Appendix 2 for mountaineering training with organisations offering courses that are suitable for Scouts and/or Leaders.

Surrey Scout & Guide Mountaineering Club

Contact: ssgmcsec@gmail.com
Website: http://ssgmc.uk/

The Club is a joint organisation of the Scout and Guide Counties of Surrey and Greater London South West. It organises ‘Away Meets’ in the Mountains and evening ‘Home Meets’, usually on the 2nd Tuesday of the month in the lounge at the Toby Carvery, Cheam Road, Ewell.

They hold a minimum of two away meets per year to the mountains (generally February and October) plus a number of local day walks in the Surrey Hills or other southern country venues through the spring and summer months. The club welcomes any members of the scout association over the age of 18 who would like to gain mountaineering experience or simply have a fun weekend away with other adults.

All Members of the Movement are welcome to come to any of the indoor meetings and any away meets. For further information, please contact the secretary.

 

Mountaineering & NAVIGATION Courses – Surrey & GLSW Scouts

Contact: Martin David at peakasu@surrey-scouts.org.uk

Peak ASU is the joint Surrey and GLSW active support unit who offer mountain and navigation skills training and assessment opportunities each year including

Mountain Skills courses (based in Bethesda in Snowdonia)

These include a general and practical introduction to the many aspects of hillwalking/climbing, with the weekend providing training for all the basic personal skills required

  • Party management and the additional technical skills of leadership in the mountains
  • Route planning and navigation
  • Movement over steep or mixed ground, including confidence rope skills for those wishing to lead groups in Terrain 2
  • Group supervision and monitoring
  • Building experience/log book by acting as an assistant leader, using skills previously gained, or exploring unfamiliar routes

For those who have appropriate previous experience, assessments for Scout permits can be taken over the weekend however, notification must be given when booking.

On the May course there will be opportunities for leading and seconding on climbing routes, including placing protection and climbing ropework skills and building anchors.

We also provide training and guidance for those wishing to work towards achieving Scout permits and/or qualifications such as the Hill and Moorland Leader, Mountain Leader or (May course only) Rock Climbing Instructor Awards.

For more details, click: Peak ASU Mountain Skills Weekends 2019

 

Navigation Skills Training (based in Surrey & Sussex)

We offer training and development for any Beaver/Cub/Scout/Explorer leaders and those adults who lead groups in the countryside who wish to develop their navigation skills.

We can cater for both beginners and for those wishing to enhance their navigation skills to ensure they can both navigate effectively and safely whilst also learning how to share this knowledge with others.

This training is particularly suitable for leaders who want to run hikes for their young people, of any section, or to support expeditions for either the Duke of Edinburgh’s Awards, the Expedition Challenge (part of the Chief Scout’s Gold Award), expeditions for the Chief Scout’s Platinum and Diamond Awards and the Queen’s Scout Award.

During 2019 we hope to commence offering National Navigation Scheme Awards

For more details, click: Peak ASU Navigation Courses 2019

 

We would also be very keen to hear from:

  • Participants: Anybody in Scouting who would like to go on our mailing list to hear about opportunities to work towards gaining an Adventurous Activities Permit in Hillwalking
  • Mountain Leader / NGB Award holders: who would like to become full members and assist with training and assessment
  • Aspiring Mountain Leaders: who are working towards NGB qualifications and would like to obtain experience working on our courses (especially any who can cook)

 

Please contact: peakasu@surrey-scouts.org.uk

Put your phone down and what are you left with? Just teamwork, courage and the skills to succeed.’
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